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I wish I could find this pithy graphic, explaining how the social sciences have a mistakenly reversed view of themselves in relation to the hard sciences. And in fact, that the social sciences cause a lot of harm and make a lot of errors because they not only lack proficiency in the hard sciences, but openly reject them and often even see themselves in opposition to them. In my own experience, I was first a social scientist via Economics before entering into the softer field of Behavioral Health, which gave me a firsthand experience in stepping down from an objective-quantitative to subjective-qualitative environment.

In grad school, a professor gave me a copy of an unpublished paper about the increase of women in the social sciences and stereotype threat. The paper looked at a process in stereotype threat, in which the stereotyped group becomes acculturated to disidentify with and even reject the very achievements that the stereotype portrays them as weak at. This struck me at a personal level, because I certainly had my own internal feelings of inferiority around my math and quantitative abilities in relation to Economics, which had led me to retreat into the “gentler” domain of Behavioral Health.

I’m so glad you bring up the concept of a clinical stance. Because even many Behavioral Health clinicians aren’t trained in this. I found that my Economics training (and experiences in Physics, Chem, Biology, and Deductive Logic) helped me the most with developing a clinical stance. I was able to form an internal organizational process for objectifying salient-yet-emotionally-evocative information. And by having this objectification, I could paradoxically then refocus additional cognitive capacity to subjective rapport-building with patients. In third-wave (critical theory mind you) behaviorism, this is called the “wise mind,” because it allows for the emotional knowledge and the rational knowledge to coexist, even when the knowledge from the two seem mutually exclusive.

I guess my point, is that the social sciences do a disservice to the women who make up their ranks and to the world, the world they believe they must qualitatively change for the better, if they cannot first make meaning of the quantitative world as it is. Your observation of the changing selection mechanism is getting at this, but it is also the case that the institutional standards of college, grad school, and professorships themselves have changed, to elevate qualitative experience and degrade quantitative expectation. In my opinion, this is all downstream from unfettered student loans, in which a natural quantitative constraint has been artificially turned into a wellspring. While I abhor the notion that the social sciences have been feminized by the influx of women, I do see how the social sciences have been given the corporate cosmetic aisle treatment. A way to sell customer loyalty at a premium and then acculturate that loyalty by promoting disidentification from and rejection of the other aisles and vendors.

Or worse, it’s Virginia Slims. Self-harming anti-agentic autonomic-nervous-system-manipulating behavioral repetition, repackaged as liberation and given social status.

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Thanks for a good post. I was briefly in Stanfords Sociology PhD program in the mid-80s, and it was pretty firmly in the Lazarfeld/Lakatos niche. Still may be. Stanford was positioned as an organizations program which was openly contemptuous of methodological slop in business school journals, in part so a graduate could easily get a job at a business school as an "upholder of research standards". OTOH, orgs in the post-80s era were transforming enormously, so the value of much longitudinal data was swiftly depreciating, and the finance POV of the past 40 years with its focus on shareholders rather than on stratification left many sociologist researchers out of the consensus of what mattered. Matters might have been a little different, has sociologists put more work into economic geography, but again the national datasets didn't promote that. I still believe that economic geography trumps identity in many dimensions, but identity became an obsession, again perhaps because the datasets talked about identity directly and geography only recently. The Raj Chetty opportunity work has altered that a lot. I guess that would be my main retort to a call for more professionalism, that professional sociologists don't pay enough attention to the gaps in their datasets enough. Dan Davies has a recent post on how risk-averse orgs focus on the dots on an airplane that were recorded failures, instead of on the uncovered areas where an airplane actually crashed.

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